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Post by GenSteiner on Jul 9, 2019 16:50:02 GMT
Hello all! I cut my teeth on 2nd Edition, and played a bit of 3rd, but almost all my 40K games have been played with 4th Edition rules and Codexes. To my mind this was, and is, the peak of 40K as a mass battle game (rather than a skirmish game like 2nd, or an RPG with extras like Rogue Trader). Lots of cool toys, but not too crazy, and the power creep wasn't too bad. All my armies are built for 4th Edition, and while I do use them in more modern editions (even 8th!) they do tend to suffer from not containing Knights or Super Heavies and so on.
So, who else plays 4th Edition still, and what armies do you have for it?
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Post by Llamafish on Jul 9, 2019 19:04:09 GMT
I left the hobby for a while after 2nd ed, I got back into 40k at the end of 4th and played lots of 5th. The later editions as you said just got silly with Flyers, super heavies and Formations. I did however like the Hull points addition to the game. I use to run meta vets in chimeras and it was a tad silly at time how indestructable tanks are - That same army should be going to BOYL as a step in force if needs be!
I still have my NinjaFex army from that era, but then I got GKs and of course Eldar. Eldar always seems to be great!
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Post by fiendil on Jul 9, 2019 20:21:41 GMT
it was a tad silly at time how indestructable tanks are I seem to remember smashing the crap out of armour in most editions. 2nd edition tricked-out Eldar Dreadnought? Apply Basilisk. 4th edition Iron Warrior Land's Raider, on its first outing with fresh paint? Apply acid spray spore mine, that I only shot because I had nothing better to spend a bolter shot on... 6th edition Dark Eldar Raider? Apply 10 Repentia, and see how many you can kill in the explosion... |
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Post by jonathan e on Jul 10, 2019 9:39:41 GMT
It's odd. I should be really attached to third and fourth edition; I played them week in week out like I did sixth edition WFB, and did campaigns, and think very fondly of Cityfight (best thing ever done for the game if you ask me). I even had a lovingly kitbashed Chaos army for it. But the resonance isn't there. I wonder why?
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Post by fiendil on Jul 10, 2019 16:06:45 GMT
While I've no played more than a game or two in the later editions, so don't know if they're worthwhile, it's 4th I'd go back to, if I was going to go back. I remember enjoying how it played (way more than 2nd), and I played weekly. Even completed painting Iron Warrior, Sisters, and Tau armies.
It was specifically the True Line of Sight, and the cover-for-everyone-all-the-time, rules, in 5th, that completely killed my interest in playing.
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Post by GenSteiner on Jul 10, 2019 16:19:08 GMT
It was specifically the True Line of Sight, and the cover-for-everyone-all-the-time, rules, in 5th, that completely killed my interest in playing. It wasn't so much the rules changes as the constant need to cram more and more onto the board that turned me off playing 40K regularly after 4th. I have enough of an issue with Basilisks, let alone Manticores or ICBMs! And don't get me started on Lords Of War... I can just about get Apocalypse, it's fun to get out everything on a huge table and have at it once or twice a year, but these Knight armies and things are just a bit much. Hey ho. Horses for courses and all that. Mind you 8th Edition is pretty good at low points levels. But 4th is still the best IMO. |
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Post by fiendil on Jul 11, 2019 18:54:28 GMT
I can just about get Apocalypse, it's fun to get out everything on a huge table and have at it once or twice a year, but these Knight armies and things are just a bit much. Hey ho. Horses for courses and all that. Epic. This is what Epic is for. Gotta love Epic. |
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Post by GenSteiner on Jul 11, 2019 20:16:44 GMT
I can just about get Apocalypse, it's fun to get out everything on a huge table and have at it once or twice a year, but these Knight armies and things are just a bit much. Hey ho. Horses for courses and all that. Epic. This is what Epic is for. Gotta love Epic. EXACTLY! Man I miss Epic 40K. I had to sell all my stuff off ages ago due to poverty so I am kind of hoping Adeptus Titanicus evolves into Epic. Certainly it's the only way I'll ever own Titans! |
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Post by fiendil on Jul 12, 2019 14:58:03 GMT
Certainly it's the only way I'll ever own Titans! I'm pretty sure beetlebacks are cheaper than they have been for a while, because of the new version. But, I could be wrong. |
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Post by GenSteiner on Jul 13, 2019 13:06:57 GMT
Oh the old Epic stuff - yeah, that's true. I bought into new AT initially but haven't been employed enough to keep up with the release pace. So for now my two Warlords and six Knights will have to be all alone. ...not entirely sure how we got to AT from 4th 40K!  |
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Post by Llamafish on Jul 14, 2019 16:06:54 GMT
Oh the old Epic stuff - yeah, that's true. I bought into new AT initially but haven't been employed enough to keep up with the release pace. So for now my two Warlords and six Knights will have to be all alone. Im using old titans with the new runs... planning to actually play a game at BOYL |
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Post by GenSteiner on Jul 15, 2019 1:41:00 GMT
Ooh, let me know how it works. My friend with whom I'd normally play is a bit put off by the apparent lack of tactics and devolution into "move up a bit, shoot, one of you explodes".
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Post by tinylegions on Jun 29, 2020 21:23:19 GMT
I never really played the 4th, but I do want to and have the book. Most of my 40K experience is from the 5th, 6th, and the first of the 7th. I have been pre-occupied over the past five or so years with life, unfortunately. I do tend to like the 5th better than the rest, but I do think that there are good add-ons that should have been incorporated earlier, which is mainly overwatch. As far as flyers goes, I do like the concept that they went with, but not exactly how they were executed by GW. It seems bizarre that any missile launcher in the 40K world cant also have flack missiles as a regular loadout(i.e. not something that you need to spend additional points on) On the other hand we have extensive usage of close air support in the modern military. Why should a storm talon not be at least as common as an Apache helicopter? On another topic of contention, I never liked the Thunderhawks. The Stormravens look a lot more practical to me.
Getting me started on the crap that GW is making to replace Space Marines deserves its own thread, and may end up laced with insults to the "geniuses" in Nottingham.
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